The AHS E-Mail Robin Membership Guidelines
The DAYLILY list is a
private, unmoderated e-mail list. As a private list, postings may be
made by, and are sent only to, the list's subscribers. As an
unmoderated list, postings by list members are sent automatically to
all list members. Therefore, the list's owners have no pre-approval
right or control over the content of such messages. The list,
therefore, serves as a mechanical convenience for the rapid
distribution of private mail among its members. Each individual
subscriber is solely responsible for the opinions expressed in his or
her messages.
The owners of the list, ICORS.ORG, and the American Hemerocallis Society bear no responsibility for the content of any postings, nor for the actions of any list member with respect to the receipt of such postings. All opinions and growing practices mentioned on the list are those of the individual authors.
The Purpose of the AHS E-Mail Robin
The purpose of our robin is to allow all its members to communicate freely with one another on topics chiefly related to the subject of daylilies. It is hoped that our discussions will lead toward a better understanding and appreciation of our favorite flower, and to give members access to a wide variety of opinion and factual matter about daylilies. It is a goal of the robin to create an atmosphere of respect, tolerance, and good will among our members. We have become one very large family with many diverse views and opinions. It is important that we continue to value independent thinking and creativity.
It is also a purpose of our robin to provide an opportunity to make new friends and to enjoy our world of daylilies together. Many members have developed friendships through their association with others in our robin. These friendships are cherished and may well last a lifetime. These friendships, too, help to foster good will and understanding as we conduct our business of discussing daylilies here in our robin.
The Purpose of the Robin Membership Guidelines
The purpose of our Robin Membership Guidelines is to state clearly to prospective members and present members alike the rules that govern membership in our robin and the use of its list server. It is expected that members will comply with these guidelines in the interest of cooperation and respect among our members and for the smooth operation of our list server. Should you have any questions or comments about these guidelines, you may respond to the list owners at the following E-Mail addresses:
Tim Fehr: (fehrtj@charter.net)
Bob Stanton: (stantonr@stjohns.edu)
Ted White: (tedwhite1@aol.com)
Specific Robin Guidelines
Membership In The Robin: Membership in the AHS E-Mail Robin is open to all duly registered members of the American Hemerocallis Society. Members may be removed by the list owners for violations of the list guidelines.
A helpful document detailing how to turn off MIME and HTML formatting has been created by Gerald E. Boyd: gboyd@expita.com, and can be viewed HERE. It covers most e-mail software with intructions for disabling MIME and setting plain text in each one,
The HTML/MIME encoding causes problems in the processing, distribution, and storage of robin mail. These problems include:
1. HTML encoding makes messages twice the size in the Robin Archives. Since all messages pass through the server, they are automatically recorded in the Archives. This means that twice the amount of computer storage space is used to archive your message in the computers at ICORS.
2. Your message takes twice as long to transfer to each robin member.
3. Some robin members' mail software does not use these features, and as result, they receive "gibberish" with each message, making it over twice as long as if would need to be.
4. In order for a MIME encoded message to be read at the reciever's end, the message's mail header, which contains the decoding instructions, must remain intact. Those Robin members who get their Robin mail in the Digest format do NOT get individual message headers, instead the listserv inserts its own message header for each digest. Individual messages within the Digest that used MIME encoding will be full of extra characters and gibberish. There have been instances where using MIME has made every message after this message in the archives unreadable as well.
The copyright of each message sent to the Daylily robin belongs to the person who wrote the message. If a member posts a message including the words "Not for publication", or similar wording, that message may not be reproduced by anyone without permission. If such a phrase does not appear in the message, the message may be reproduced in the AHS Daylily Journal without prior permission. Any other individuals who wish to use such a message must first obtain written permission from the original author before this material may be used elsewhere for any other purposes other than 'personal archives.' This includes editor of newsletters of regional and local daylily clubs. Any individual violating the copyright of a robin member may be subject to discipline in accordance with provisions elsewhere in the guidelines.
A notable exception to reproduction of a copyrighted posting, is in the use of "quoting" in replying to a message. This is considered a natural function of discussion lists so quoting back to the list or to the author of the posts are not considered violations of their copyright, but necessary to maintain threads of comments.
When replying to a Robin message, please quote only those portions needed to continue the thread.
We recognize that many robin members run nurseries and many sell daylilies, other perennials and related garden products. We welcome announcements of the availability of new price lists, catalogs, videos, and new daylily web sites. We would find it unnatural for hybridizers and those who introduce for others, not to be excited about their new introductions and we welcome and encourage comments about them. However, restraint should be exercised so that it doesn't appear that any member is using the robin solely as a promotional tool for his/her commercial concerns. Therefore, members are not permitted to use the list server to post lists of plants for sale. Failure to abide by this rule could jeopardize our relationship with ICORS.ORG and its Non-Profit status. Therefore, all members must be certain not to make these commercial listings through the list server.
The following are examples of "Commercial" postings that are NOT permitted in postings to the Daylily List:
(1) The publication of any lists of daylilies or other plants for sale, or other materials or goods whose sale is for personal gain is prohibited. This also applies to various plant auctions and sales that are held to benefit specific plant societies, e.g. daylily clubs, the various AHS regions, and any other organizations that represent any plant society.
(2) The advertising and promotion of personal website development services is prohibited. This includes the listing of specific services offered and a listing of charges for services to be rendered. While it is permissible to announce new daylily websites to the robin, it is not permissible to include information that would advertise services for sale by the developer of a website in messages announcing new websites to the robin.
(3) The advertising of video tapes, DVDS, CD ROM disks, and publications for personal gain is prohibited. If a member wishes to promote any of these items for sale, he/she is asked to forward the information to George Lawrence for inclusion in the Bulletin Board. You may send notices of items for sale to Geroge at ladybugr@worldnet.att.net. Bulletin Board notices will be sent to the membership two or three times weekly.
Commercialism Notes:
The foregoing statements regarding commercialism are chiefly designed to define what constitutes commercialism and to restrict public notice of only those items that are for personal gain. The statement in no way alters our commitment to the members to guarantee them the opportunity to freely discuss the merits of garden related products that others are offering for sale.
It is also acceptable for members to list their personal website addresses (URLs) in signature blocks at the end of robin messages.
It should be noted that the commercialism statements do not preclude the sale of AHS goods and services. Members should feel free to mention the availability of AHS publications, video tapes, and CD ROM disks in general robin posts. Further, it is permissible to post AHS authorized notices pertaining to any subject. It is also appropriate to post URL's relating to AHS supported, nonprofit functions of regional societies. Should AHS decide to create a link from its official website to regional auction sites, it will be appropriate to post the address (URL) of regional web pages. This pertains to auctions whose purpose is to fund regional publications or other nonprofit functions that fall within the fundraising rules of AHS.
Use the Bulletin Board for sale items or trade offers:
One proper way to promote your sales, trades and offers is in the "Bulletin Board". Any items (daylilies) for sale or trade, etc. can be sent to Deb Browne - daylilyrobinbb@gmail.com. Deb posts the Bulletin Board twice a week. The Bulletin Board uses a private mail distribution system apart from the ICORS listserv. If you are a Robin member and not getting the Bulletin Board announcements, or if you are currently getting the Bulletin Board and not longer wish to recieve it, please contact Deb directly.
Members should be aware that these type of commercial offers can be found in the Bulletin Board postings.
It is the policy of ICORS.ORG that all of its list owners have the final say in administering the guidlines for, and disciplinary actions associated with, their respective lists. As an official round robin of the American Hemerocallis Society, we must also consider directives from the AHS Board of Directors and the AHS Round Robin Chairman in making our decisions.
The ICORS listmasters have made it abundantly clear that they do not want to hear about any private disputes on the individual lists. Their policy is to ban from all ICORS lists anyone who complains to ICORS or L-Soft administrators.
It is the sincere hope of the list owners that it will not be necessary to discipline members for infractions of the Robin Guidelines. However, if infractions do occur, the owners will take any action that is required to bring the offending party into compliance with the guidelines.
First Infraction: The member will receive a "first warning" by a listserv owner, unless the infraction consists of libelous or potentially libelous remarks. In that case, the member will be subject to discipline as outlined in the third infraction below.
Second Infraction: The member will receive a "second warning" and will be warned that his/her robin membership will be in jeopardy if another infraction occurs. If the infraction consists of libelous or potentially libelous remarks, the member will be subject to discipline as outlined in the third infraction below.
Third Infraction: The member's address on the list server will be set to "nopost," or to "review," whichever is more appropriate for a period of time agreed upon by the list owners. If the member's address is set to "nopost," it means that the member cannot post any messages to the server, but can receive mail through the server. If the member's address is set to "review," he/she will be allowed to receive robin mail, but cannot send any mail without its content first being reviewed by the list owners. This would be used only in situations where infractions consisting of libelous or potentially libelous comments were made by the member.
Fourth Infraction: The member will be either "suspended" or "expelled" from the robin by the list owners, following a review of the infraction by all the list owners. If "suspended," a member will lose all robin privileges for a period of time to be determined by the owners. An outright "expulsion" means that the member will be removed permanently from the robin and will forfeit all privileges accorded robin members.
As a member of the Daylily Listserv you have several options pertaining to the mail that is sent directly from the list server to your computer. You will find below a number of commands that you may send to the server to set your mail to meet your personal needs. When you send a command to the list server, always address your e-mail message to: LISTSERV@LISTSERV.ICORS.ORG.
Note that prior to January 11, 2006, the Robin used the Maelstrom listserver at St. Johns University. When the list moved to the ICORS server, the previous archive files were also moved, so the robin archives go back to 1999, at least. We may at some future time even recover older archive files that were removed to free disk space.
In the body of your message use one of the following commands at a time:
SET DAYLILY MAIL = Use this command to activate your mail.
SET DAYLILY NOMAIL = Use this command to stop mail from the server to your address.
SET DAYLILY DIGEST = Use this command to receive a single download of all robin messages daily.
SET DAYLILY NODIGEST = Use this command to return to normal mail delivery.
SIGNOFF DAYLILY = Use this command only if you intend to drop robin membership.
SET DAYLILY REPRO = Use this command if you want the list server to confirm all the messages that you send to the list server.
QUERY DAYLILY = Use this command if you wish to find out what all your listserv subscription options are.
INDEX DAYLILY = Use this command to get a list of all daylily archives.
GET DAYLILY LOGxxxx = Use this command to order the specific archives files that you wish to view.
Another way to access the Daylily E-Mail Robin Archives is to go to the following Internet address:
http://listserv.icors.org/archives/daylily.html
Upon accessing the page, Archives of DAYLILY@LISTSERV.ICORS.ORG, you will be required to enter an archive password. Follow the directions for entering a new password. Your request will be accepted; however, you will have to wait for a message to arrive in your e-mail and reply to it as indicated in the message before you may actually gain access to the archives. A second e-mail message will confirm the acceptance of your password. You may now use the password to access the archives. This procedure is used to confirm that only robin members have access to the DAYLILY listserv archives. Although non-robin members can "get" passwords, they still will not be permitted to view the archive files.